tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523310861332975349.post8505978093049529791..comments2023-06-27T16:57:34.958+08:00Comments on Mindful Mariner: Pedra Branca / Batu Puteh / White Rock (the site of Horsburgh Lighthouse)mindful marinerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09342847906386337245noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523310861332975349.post-38316443582020688192008-05-26T20:47:00.000+08:002008-05-26T20:47:00.000+08:00migs-sabah, thanks for your comments.red white, yo...migs-sabah, thanks for your comments.<BR/><BR/>red white, your comments are noted, however I cannot agree with your narrow point of view, Singapore retained Pedra Branca Island, Malaysia gained Middle Rocks, whilst the sovereignty of South Ledge is still undecided.<BR/>There were winners and losers.<BR/>The ICJ weighed the facts of the case and the judgement was made.<BR/>Ad iudicium<BR/>-To judgement; to common sensemindful marinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09342847906386337245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523310861332975349.post-67009622021428193452008-05-26T17:23:00.000+08:002008-05-26T17:23:00.000+08:00Singapore won big. PBP is an island while Middle R...Singapore won big. PBP is an island while Middle Rock is a marine feature. Malaysia lost big.red whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17699287289011477551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523310861332975349.post-88283729845367114612008-05-26T00:01:00.000+08:002008-05-26T00:01:00.000+08:00yJK's Digest No. 9 of May 2008 (338- of 2008) Su...yJK's Digest No. 9 of May 2008 (338- of 2008) Surrender at symbolic loss of Pulau Batu Puteh<BR/>All about PBP.<BR/>1) The loss of Pulau Batu Puteh (PBP) - 12:4.<BR/> The loss of PBP is like raising the white flag in any conflict. But it is not an end yet when the financial loss in bringing up this ICJ case is substantial especially the loser may have to be held responsible for this debacle. How much did the costs add up on both sides of the tip of the Peninsula Malaysia? Likely to be up to half a billion Ringgit - down the drain again. Kapal Singh was accusing the Government of the ill advice to go in to win back the PBP. I would say the illegitimate Government was 'sleeping' over the whole episode as it had not done its homework and relying on emotion. Was it the strategy of the island state to get even with 1965's event and Malaysia was trapped finally with the finality of the decision of ICJ? The illegitimate Government and its advisers would not listen to whistle blowers on any issues and that is on the way of the white flag for the nation - a backlash of ill treating Sabah.<BR/>2) Ligitan and Sipadan could be the impetus to go ICJ for PBP.<BR/> I think the win of Ligitan & Sipadan case with Indonesia could have inspired the stupid national leaders to go on with PBP. L&S was won on the active administrative effort on the islands by the Sabah's Government for a long time while Indonesia just remain passive although L&S are in the global line for Indonesia. So if we assess the grounds of winning L&S, how can we ever win back PBP? Now the stupid leaders are moaning for what - win- win scenario? Malaysia is only worth fishing rights over Middle Rock islands while Singapore got the pearl of the region and that is a surrender phenomenon.<BR/>3) What is the committee to resolve ICJ's decision on PBP?<BR/> Now a new committee is to be formed to resolve the decision of ICJ. Was such a similar joint committee done prior to the case going to ICJ? Who are now holding on the straw? May be it is the start of conflict post ICJ's decision as a way to divert attention in drama of the loss.<BR/><BR/>4) The South Ledge Island<BR/> Why did not the ICJ give a specific or clearer decision on that South Ledge Island? Who had over looked that and the vague result happens? Would there be another expensive case when Indonesia can bring Singapore and Malaysia to ICJ? Could South Ledge Island be claimable by Indonesia and since Indonesia was not a party to this trial, the decision was vague? Unlike the intervention by Philippines on L&S, Indonesia did not doing anything on South Ledge Island - maybe the hurts on L&S was too much for it. Since Indonesia was not a party to this '3 islands' case, ICJ would not rule on South Ledge hence held in suspense. <BR/>5) What is next?<BR/> There are still a few islands to be disputed such as Spratly Islands and the Ambalat. What is Malaysia going to do about that? Both these groups of Islands are very near to Sabah, hence Sabah must do something about this and not wait for the others to sit on them.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Joshua Kong - LATEST BOOK - "A case of victory - landslide or rigslide" on the Malaysian General Elections 2004<BR/>.<BR/>GOVERNMENT RIGS ELECTIONS ALL TIMES (GREAT) <BR/>GOVERNMENTS RAMPANT INTERNAL ELECTIONS FRAUDS (GRIEF)<BR/>http://forum3.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=313213&pid=18998994&page=1&extra=page%3D1#pid18998994 (The Authority - open to all including visitors)<BR/>http://p214.ezboard.com/fmalaysiaforeverfrm2<BR/>http://p214.ezboard.com/GOVERNMENT-RIGS-ELECTIONS-ALL-TIMES-GREAT/fmalaysiaforeverfrm2.showMessage?topicID=610.topic [Malaysia Forever] for GREAT GRIEF.<BR/>http://p214.ezboard.com/Joshua-Kong-for-Prime-Minister-of-Malaysia-to-be-good/fmalaysiaforeverfrm2.showMessage?topicID=609.topic (JK for PM)<BR/>http://forum4.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=313208&pid=18998942&page=1&extra=page%3D1#pid18998942 (local politics - reading level 2)<BR/>>>> International Criminal Court migs-mega-icc-group-sabah/ (dead??) http://migs-sabah.blogspot.com/ (active)<BR/>http://www.freewebs.com/justknock/migsiccsabah.htm (active)<BR/>http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=285771&page=1&extra=page%3D1#pid16300759 <BR/>or http://forum4.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=285771&extra=page%3D1<BR/>.... for MIGS<BR/>>>>> <BR/>http://won-borneo.blogspot.com/; (deleted)<BR/>http://malaysian-elections-2004.blogspot.com/ .......GREAT<BR/>http://www.e-borneo.com/col/jkong/ .... 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